in this performance I hate fredo so much ...but
that was a perfect acting
because he made you to believe that he is weak and Asshole. .....unfortunately we didn't enjoy more of his performances. ..RIP Cazale
I can't help but think how Sonny would feel about Michael killing Fredo. And maybe more importantly, his father. We can rationalize and try to justify Michael's killing of Fredo all we want, but in the end it just made him more isolated, alone, and detached.
Vito said it , sonny was the one who he knew would face this life but was such a hot head . Fredo the Don just says Fredo and makes thst face like u know he's slow he didn't want michael to have that life that's why he pushed him to college and wanted him to be a power player a senator or governor which Micheal had the brains and drive to be . I'm sure as a dad he wanted none of his kids to do what he had to do plus no way was sonny not going to be the next Don. and he said it sonny would be a bad don. I'm thinking tom hagen is the one he wanted to be in charge. Connie ironically became the most cunning and deadly. but a woman would bever be esp in an Italian family back then anything more than a wife and mom. tjats why I kinda love Connie and her attitude towards michael . if a man she would have been a great Don
Anyone notice the cold breath coming out of Michaels mouth once he started denouncing Fredo? It doesn't take place at any point in the scene before that. It is symbolic of the cold words he was saying.
At this point, betrayal lead to Mike's dad to be nearly murdered, his brother being murdered, and his first wife was blown up. Not to mention Tesio. The thought of his brother's betrayal causing him and his 2nd wife being nearly killed was appalling. Fredo deserved the one way boat ride.
This was a good movie , but ... both Michael and the don before him made very juvenile mistakes , mistakes I saw too easily. For example , sending one of their trusted men to act like he didn’t want to work for the don right after they turned down a deal to get involved in the drug business. And michael’s biggest mistake... killing his brother. No matter what... no matter how much you hate your family , you can’t kill them or it will haunt you forever probably. And that’s exactly what happened.
Can't believe this, but I am exactly like this with my oldest brother. He lied to me and my mother to try and rip me off after my father passed away. Told me right to my face I never gave anything to the family, never helped in anyway. After all the years my father sold farm land to get HIM out of jail, to pay for lawyers, to buy him a small business, all the while he spent his money and time on women and booze and other stuff I can't get into, while I was away on my own in another country trying to save money and put myself through university while my father was dying thousands of miles away and I could only visit when I could save the money to. And now, after 3 years we no longer speak to each other and I will never see him again like the brother he once was to me. And the irony is I too am named Michael and the youngest of 3 brothers. This hits too close to home.
the excessive relaxation of Fredo who abandons himself so much as to be one with the chair, seems to bring with him the awareness of not possessing the fate of his life anymore in his hands, so it appears in all its transparency and fragility, a fragility that a mafia boss can not afford to tolerate,not after that precedent! not in that environment!
I just realized now that this scene mirrors the one in the first Godfather where Michael confronts Carlo. It's chilling how Michael asks for the one question he doesn't know the answer to, and when he gets it, the other man's fate is sealed. Family connections don't matter. Although Carlo wasn't blood, by marriage he was family. And just as Michael waited after his father died to unleash his killing spree in the first one. He waits after his mother dies for the second. Wow--Francis!
John Cazale was so realistic, so intense to Fredo's character, so poignant and true to the feelings of an embittered and resentful brother. In my opinion one of the the best scenes, if not the best, of the godfather trilogy films
Yeah, it's so good. Fredo the character might be stupid but John Cazale is a genius. The way his voices breaks when he says "I'm smart!!" makes him sound like an entitled and hopelessly dumb manchild, which is exactly what Fredo is supposed to be. Sublime acting if I've ever seen one.
That reaction of Fredo at 1:17. After all his emotions and frustations came out, to explain his side, his story. But all he ( michael) gonna say is about business, on how he could help his trial. Its like telling someone about your depression and all he gonna say is " is that all? Ok clean the dishes after this "
I understand why he felt he needed to be killed. But, Fredo didn’t know it would result in a hit because he’s incompetent, not because he actually wanted to harm his brother. Being seen as the weak link/idiot of a family like this over the course of his lifetime must have been a horrible feeling. The need to carve out deals on his own/be in charge of certain things/impressing people with his initiatives (refer to book) is certainly an understandable human design. I think Fredo would have been okay if he had just a little more responsibility and support from his brother Mike. Mike’s job is to be strong for the family, but the irony is that he failed to address his only remaining brother in a lifestyle where family is paramount. We know that Michael does end up regretting this and feels ashamed. Again, his death was understandable, but in retrospect, he may have found another alternative, such as a real excommunication where Fredo isn’t even kept around on occasion. Of all the ruthless acts Mike committed, I personally feel this is the worst. It’s still his brother, who is in many ways a tragic character as well, who loved his brother mike. Mike is a bastard for this. He really did deserve to suffer, which he does both directly and especially indirectly.
From a pragmatic standpoint, I understand why Fredo needed to be killed.
He had already betrayed the Family (the Mafia one and not the blood one) and a message needed to be sent. There is also the possibility of him being used as a puppet by internal forces in power struggle.
He was a weak link at best and treacherous at worst.
That being said, Fredo only became that way because he was treated as an incompetent by Michael.
You mentioned the book and you might remember that Fredo wasn't particularly dumb or incompetent or even weak (it states several times that he was the toughest from a physical standpoint), but rather he was the most soft-hearted of the brothers. He didn't have the ruthless drive of Sonny or the cunning of Michael.
If Michael would have recognized his talents and made Fredo feel like anything other than his assistance, Fredo would have never become a liability.
It is Michael's fault that it ever got that bad and that is what the ending scene shows. It shows the last time when the Corleone Family (both Mafia and blood) was united and it shows how Fredo stood up to Sonny to defend Michael's decision to become a Marine. It shows that Fredo was loyal to Michael and that he did have a will of his own.
It's Michael that fucked everything up.
I don't know why but I just love this scene. My Mr and I quote Freddo often, "Not like dumb I'm smaatt". lmbo The acting in this scene was superb. The Godfather series remains my #1 favorite, even today. :)
Sometimes I forget how good this move is. Cazale’s acting is unparalleled.
You can say that I’m just one who always says things were better in the past...whatever, I don’t want to hear it. So I’ll say it: they aren’t making movies like this anymore.
Knock it off with this childish superhero nonsense. Grow up...man it’s as if we’ve all become perpetual adolescents.
Ok my friends, that was my rant which was partly brought to you by Italian Stock brandy!
Michael's youth ... love for Sonny's siblings ... father's lack of Tom and Fredo's exclusion ...
They never knew the value of each other. In fact, they loved each other very much in discussions ... But here's the problem, they did not know their assets ...
This film scene has always made me cry.
Be you; Spend PRECIOUS time with your loved ones, family and friends. Then you'll regret it like Michael. When you look at the photographs you took with your family and friends, you say "I wish". Just like Michael ...
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