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Is there any alternative to Windows? How about Gaming on Linux? Why should you care? Because the future of Linux is vital for the future of PC Gaming.
For this video, I tested lubuntu on an i5 750 and GT 1030. Games tested are CSGO, Mad Max, Rocket League, Bioshock Infinite, Nier Automata, Doom, Skyrim, Overwatch.
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Hi i follow you since about 2 or 3 years ago. I am subbed and i would really appreciate it if you could do a guide to reduce the lag in rings of elysium for amd radeon please. Its a good game and its free but i cant run it properly with constant freezes and stuttering in addition to low fps
Hey Alex! I've got a question that's been burning on my mind and I was hoping you could answer it with a video. I know an SSD doesn't necessarily improve overall performance in terms of FPS in games. But what I really want to know is does it reduce stuttering and input lag?
Edit: Also could you do a segment on how to improve a CPU bottleneck?
I already do use linux for gaming i havent been on windows since 2011 yes lost some games regained a lot of them for steam play in all honesty most of the ones i was missing like skyrim. A couple of points though dxvk was funded by valve since feb 2018 as was wine (the basis for proton) Valve are continuing to invest heavily in proton because they want a safety net against ms restricting steams growth because they control the platform steam operates on its a simple quid pro quo valve helps linux because linux ultimately helps valve keep a option should ms try to restrict growth which is what the uwp program and store is aimed at doing. Also there are other tools to use that just work with linux games with no messing about with configuration files or the command line (though in my experience the command line is easy to learn and a better way of working however there is a learning curve) and that is lutris, lutris is inbetween layer that offers one click installs of games and installs and adds patches and work arounds automatically to get games to run on linux there is a performance hit it can be as little as 5 to 10 fps but it can be as much as 30 fps loss depending on drivers etc. A final note if you are an AMD user you are better served using Mesa graphics drivers rather than the AMD officals drivers as the community drivers are partially developed & funded by valve and Mesa updates are tied into kernel updates but unlike windows updates are easily managed and linux tells you exactly what is installing how big the files are and how long its going to take never normally more than about 500- 600mb to upgrade all the drivers on your system.
Thankfully Microsoft isn't the "gatekeeper" and Linux has been a mainstream option for at least 3 years.
Vulkan has been the biggest change to that, but Proton is finally looking to put Windows at risk.
It's interesting that you are able to install Ubuntu and its variants. Thanks to some Ubiquity bug, the installer for any version of Ubuntu past 16.04 crashes when detecting the hard drive. No errors or anything.
I moved off of Windows quite a while ago after seeing where Microsoft was going with it, I'm really happy to see big companies like steam (Who I have plenty of problems with) opening up the floor for more people to look into linux. The big problem is always going to be momentum, so making it /possible/ to step into an alternative operating system really helps bridge that chasm.
Linux has a ways to go for driver support, because they make it difficult to make drivers for it. IE: IIRC instead of having some kind of abstraction layer to make unified driver development simple, you have to write very specific drivers for every little change. Thus, there's more time and money involved in trying to make Linux drivers. So, most manufacturers just ignore it, since the marketshare (to them) doesn't justify the work put in.
Also, as Moore's Law is coming to a close, we're going to start seeing systems switch to a multi-dedicated-chip architecture.. where you have dedicated mini-chips for stuff (eg: a disk processing unit - DPU - that will handle all the micro-management of data pools, a memory processing unit - MPU - that will handle the micro-management of massive RAM and RAM-like pools (because some storage media is becoming as fast as RAM, and can double as psuedo-RAM, so you'd have a RPU that would manage .. RAM, paging files, etc, on all the various hw slapped in the box), etc).
The CPU(s) will just turn in to orchastrators to offload work to their respective dedicated-chips... (graphics to GPU's, data to DPU's, memory to RPU's, etc)... and piece it back together.
This will take some of the work off the CPU(s), so they can start to shift to more RISC (reduced instruction set) architecture.. which would mean ARM chips could become more mainstream in high-end computing.
What this means is ... things like Android, iOS, etc.. are primed to becoming the major OS' over time, b/c they're already designed to run on RISC. It would be easier to adapt them to a multi-chip environment then to rewrite Windows / Linux to run on them.
But, we could see things like Linux hyper-optimized to be the mini-OS controller for dedicated chips.. like a DPU.
Currently we're seeing the branch off of graphics chips into normal GPU & now RTX (dedicated ray-tracing / physics).
We're going to see more and more chip dedication in the future.
So, before we can answer the question of which OS we will game on.. we have to first figure out which OS will be driving the future of multi-chip computing environments. And that question is up in the air. But will be the deciding factor in the next decade (2020-2030) as we branch into multi-chip environments.
I literally say that on the video. The most performance providing versions of Linux (like arch) requires a lot of technical know-how, which is why I then explained that I pick Ubuntu (or rather a variant of it). Not because of performance but because of ease of instal.
De ahí vienen muchos juegos, también deberían ir allí. La verdad es que me gustaría mucho que exista esa comodidad en linux. Si así fuera, superaría o alcanzaría a grandes como windows. Quizá nunca pase, pero soñar nunca está de más.
I don't know why you're having such a performance drop. I've never seen anything like it on similar systems..
And AMD drivers are included in most distros by default as the amdgpu or xorg-driver-amdgpu package.
0:39 Because only Windows 7 and 10 exist. Oh, and Linux. But nothing else. There is no MacOS, that handles audio-video renders like nothing else, there is no Windows Vista, that works better than Windows 7 (if you run them on the same hardware, which doesn't involve crappy HDDs and slow CPUs, not that I recommend Vista these days), there is no Windows 8, which runs better than Windows 10, because in it you can prevent Telemetry from eating HDD speeds and it is better designed for backwards compatibility than Windows 10.
Truth is, Windows 7 is buggy (one good example is %temp% never gets cleaned up, just open it) and, sometimes, even unstable. It is rare to be unstable, but it is much more probable for Windows 7 to be unstable than it is for 8 and 10.
+LowSpecGamer I agree with thr fact that Linux should matter, but it is incredibly annoying when I seeor hear people saying "the only options are Windows 7 and 10".
Linux is great, don't get me wrong, and so is 10 (ingoring the long "Welcome" loading times), but these aren't the only ways to go. A Start Screen is also one possible way and it's actually way more useful than a Start *Menu* , that's how I find it (on a PC). Plus it looks different than anything else.
You can not buy a MacOS license for the PC that you built, you can only install it as a hack with does not support a lot of hardware and the gaming support on it is worse than Linux, especially if you consider proton so for the purposes of that example, no, it is not an option.
Windows Vista was taken out of mainline support on 2017 if I am not mistaken, so it does not get any security updates.
The point of that sentence is to show that your main gaming options are currently limited to Windows. Does not matter which version. There is no mainstream second horse in the OS race and that is why Linux should matter.
Ok, first you star with some bogus news and then and OLD video of GABEN(Blessed be his name) using Vista... Do I sense Windows Hatred on your video?
Ah... How couldn't anticipate that... An Umbutu(I call it that way, I don't care) user "linux expert"...
Umbutu is the worst distro anyone can use, and if you fail t install windows that says A LOT on how ignorant someone can be...
These "bogus news" are real-life examples of how the overdominance of a company on a market brews trouble for final consumers.
Also, the Gaben clip is a joke, in case it was not obvious. His concerns with Windows 10 are very well documented if you are looking for something more modern.
As explained in the video the perspective is of a casual user trying to figure Linux out, and for that purpose, Ubuntu is the best example both in adoption and ease of install/use. In fact, I am careful not to call myself anything close to a Linux expert at any point in the video.
Windows installs can fail for a million reasons, a lot of them outside of user control. Troubleshooting it can be as difficult as troubleshooting a Linux install. When you have to reinstall it on a weekly basis you see it happening from time to time.
i7-3770, GeForce 970, 8GB RAM, KUbuntu. Finished Tomb Raider (2013) and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Upgraded to vanilla GeForce 1080 and 32GB RAM to play Rise of the Tomb Raider. Thoroughly enjoyed that as well (400 hours played!)
Totally recommend people adding Linux to their fold and choose Steam/Linux titles over the same title on Windows to show developers what is the right way to go :)
Oh, and I have not had ONE game on Steam bork on me - except trying to run RotTR while not having upgrade to 1080.
*I ALREADY AM!* :D (Raspberry Pi 3B+ with active cooling fan and open sided case, running RetroPie) I even brought it to the last testing day last year, and after the 3rd hour, our class finished, so for the next 4 or so hours, I played original PlayStation games and Nintendo DS games.
Using Linux Mint and all of my games are running FINE. No man's sky and Skyrim for example are running extremely well on my i3-8gen, 8gb ram GTX1050 GPU and their are only running through the steam compatibility mode. So that's a good sign for linux future
I do not think that the future of gaming will be on linux. I think the time of native gaming is coming to an end. We will game in the cloud in the future, with subscriptions like for netflix or spotify, everythink will be streamed. The OS will no longe be relevant. So "this war" is already over and windows won. Linux is way too late to this party.
If Frame Rate are Better then on shitty Windows yes!
There is 2 things needed that all people switch to Linux gaming
1. Better Frame Rates in game
2. Better Game support for all Games for easy instal and play.
Native ports are only better than a highly optimized translation layer if the people porting it dont use a compatibility layer inside the game code itself and spend some time actually optimizing like Valve did. If you look at the open source games that Phoronix sometimes uses to run some of its benchmarks you will see that they often run way faster on Linux than on Windows, because they had YEARS of optimizations piled up on both systems, which means they get the best perfomance out of each OS.
Posted during a time when the future of linux is in question...
Not a linux hater just so ya know.
But ya really should check out what's going on currently with linux.
It may not even be available in another year or so?
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