Who was this murdered mystery woman?
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The reason why I can't be persuaded that it was a suicide is because the "hiking trails" is obviously a body dump. They found no lighters on her, just the petrol around the scene but they also discribed her as "wedged between two rocks"
Unless she had lit herself on fire and then shimmied between the rocks it seems highly improbable.
Can I ask something she took 50-70 freaking sleeping pills how did she managed to stay awake to put herself on fire even if her system didn't digest them all??? I mean these are a lot of pills but those pills are strong
Sounds to me like someone went to great lengths to make the murder of a spy look like a suicide. Wasn't there something about a bruise on her face or neck? Maybe somebody knocked/choked her out,poured pills down her throat and set her on fire.
Maybe she was a spy running away from something or someone? She went to a remote location to make sure they wouldn't find her and took the pills. If she thought they were close or something unexpected occurred, she then choose a faster method? But if she was methodical enough to erase tags in her suitcase, why not burn all her items if she thought this was going to be the end of her? If it was murder by someone of "higher power", why such a sloppy job?
What I find strange is it’s like I’m going to swallow 57 pills then set myself on fire then jump into a bunch of rocks not before I put my jewellery beside me and make sure I have a couple bottles around me it just doesn’t make sense plus it would’ve shown some of the pills are already absorbed how would she have been able to jump into those rocks or set her self on fire🤨
I feel she was murdered. That she was forced to take the pills to set up a staged suicide to make things point to her killing herself but actually murdered.... Leaving no Trace back to who or what she worked for. Maybe she was a high class prostitute which could also explain the hotel to hotel too... Maybe she was murdered because she wanted out of what she was really doing... Whatever that may be.... The list could go on... But whoever murdered her obviously knew what they were doing to confuse who she is, how she died, or who she was working for....
Maybe the burning was a torture method or something. I mean, if she was indeed a spy then torture must have been involved somehow. Like, rivals or nemeses could be trying to get info out of her, but she can't so she could have resorted to sleeping pill as it could have been the nearest thing to her. But that still doesn't explain why she swallowed 50 something sleeping pills. Maybe the bruising on her neck could mean forceful swallowing of the pills. But the person/s didn't think she deserved such a painless death and decided to burn her instead with petroleum and a blowtorch, SLOWLY if it even is possible, before she actually died of the pills.
what if she was a spy who was running from the Norwegian government because she was going to release some damaging information about the government and she tried a impromptu suicide with the sleeping pills and when her pursuers found her dead body and they burned it to mask her identity but someone else planted her bags at the train station to spur an investigation into her and the information she had but it hit a dead end and the government found and killed the person who planted the bags effectively ending any discovery evidence of whatever information she and her accomplice had. The bruise is from where the agents pulled the dead body in to the depression where it was found. The body was found because the agents were going to return to the scene of the burning to clean up the scene but couldn't because the family found it in what the agents thought would be a isolated hiding place and they didn't want to draw any attention to themselves by trying to cover it up after it became open to the public.
It's possible she could have been hiding from someone/something. If she was a spy, this could be possible. My theory is that she was afraid she was going to get caught, so she took the pills to commit suicide. This said person could have then caught her and burned her alive to kill her, not knowing that she had already taken these pills.
She might've attempted to kill herself with the pills and maybe some other spy covered her in gasoline and tossed her on the barbie then threw her over the edge where she got wedged in the rocks and gained that funky bruise.
What if the lady was being followed by someone. She then made different identities and constantly changed hotel rooms to hide. Then once she realized that the person or people where to close on her trail so she took the pills to commit suicide but soon after the people abducted her and set her on fire to make it look like a suicide. Idk it's just a guess.
I think personally that this was a murder.
This theory is only about her death, not what led up to it, btw.
I think the culprit somehow knew where she was going to be and followed her or lured her there. They caught her by surprise and struck a blow to her neck, effectively knocking her out. They then tried to kill her by forcing 50-70 pills down her throat to make it look like a suicide. But after waiting a while, and she still wasn't dead, they got impatient when the pills weren't taking effect as quickly as they wanted, and doused her body in petrol before setting her body on fire. Then they ran.
This is my opinion of the death, I'm still puzzled by the circumstances because each one I come up with has multiple holes in it or pure assumptions not supported by evidence
I don't think she removed heart tags or labels just for the fact of her suitcases being found at a train station 3 days later. The suspect could have did that. Or if she did do it and committed suicide maybe she didn't want didnt want to be identified to cause heartache to her loved ones.. Idk ijs
Maybe she knew she was being chased so she took the pills and went in the middle of no where to die on her own terms, but when the people who were chasing her caught up to her they decided to end it there by burning her.
What if like— considering if she WAS a spy— to keep the information away from probably an enemy, she swallowed the pills, and then this enemy burnt her to a crisp? It’s both a suicide and a murder to gain and detain information
Lesse here... what two things were accomplished in this murder? 1: Isdal died and 2: no one knows how or who she was. If I was going to murder someone, I would make sure they couldn't be recognized after the fact, and obviously adding as many non-complimentary clues as possible caused investigators to fail. Giving evidence that leads in circles makes for an unsolved case and a scot-free murderer. Obviously since this is unsolved, the method to confuse worked
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But about this one.. theory:
Domestic abuse or stalker. She was on the run from someone trying to hurt her. (Fingerprints gone, clothes gone, constant moving, alternative ID's, etc.) They caught up with her. Forced her to take the pills. Then "had they're way" with her. Burned her to cover any evidence.
So...I am leaning towards accident/suicide. I wonder if she was burning something, and something she was burning exploded, which is why the front of her was burned and not the back. Also if she was burning something that would explain the smoke in her lungs. Not so sure about the jewelry though.
Cyanide works as fast as in the movies without a doubt!!!
There are quite a few documented cases of people, accused of murder etc. taking cyanide pills in court immediately after receiving guilty verdicts in order to avoid jail time.
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maybe she did something bad as a spy and her agency thing needed her to die fast and forced her to take the pills but thought that someone was watching them or something and decided to set her on fire so that she'd die faster. but idk
What if she was did work in espionage and got found out about who she was so she swallowed all those pills because she knew she was going to die but before she could pass away peacefully she was found by the person/people’s she was spying on and they killed her
Well what if she knew someone was was after her going to murder her then she finds out and she doesn't want this someone to take her life she decided to take her own with the sleeping pills but to late the murderer finds her before the pills take effect and boom she gets light on fire but that still doesn't answer why her back for some odd reason was not burnt
Here’s a theory. She’s a spy, and has confidential information. An enemy agent is on her and she tries to kill herself so the agent can’t learn the information. He/she gets there earlier and takes her to Death Valley where he/she proceeds to torture her by burning in order to procure aforementioned information.
theory: if she was really a spy then she probably had valuable information. someone may have been after her so tried swallowing the pills to commit suicide but she didnt die in time, the fire was either a last resort to remove herself or the person after her used the fire to kill her. who knows
She could have been a Con-Artist. Multiple identities, different disguises, plenty of money. She traveled around conning people out of their savings. Switched hotels often to avoid her victims. OR she could have a high dollar prostitute, maybe even blackmailing her johns. My point is, this behavior doesn't necessarily say 'spy'
If she was a spy or involved in some shady stuff then maybe she could have taken the pills to commit suicide because she knew that someone was after her but before she died she went up to death valley to light herself on fire so that the case would be as confusing as possible and so that it would make it almost impossible to identify her.
wait how did she get from the station to death valley by walking? ..too far. by taxi? ..thered be a record rental car?.. also, why, did she leave her things.. was she kidnapped.. or if she was a spy did she chase someone from the station to the place... also, could she have been a high class escort.. as this would explain the travelling.. cash... clothes... hotels.. changing rooms.. accents.. and suicide.
She was murdered by another agent, of a different group or country. The agent either met her in Death Valley or forcibly took her there, then made her swallow the pills. Only moments after death from overdose (as soon as the other agent knew she was deceased) he/she set the body on fire so no remains would be left. Mystery solved.
They hit her on the neck, she fainted, they opened her mouth put on the pills (with water), set her face on fire (while laying on her back) so they wouldn’t recognized her (the spy she was. That’s my theory.
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